Windows 11 - Do we want it or can we even handle it?

[KT 💣 KλBoƠM]

Did you see this?

Windows 11 suffers from a weird bug that messes with SATA SSDs and hard drives (7 hrs ago on MSN News)

 I'm not shocked, but didn't hear about it either.

Well I am glad I still have Win 10 for the time being.

[One Eyed Wonderweasle]

 I'm probably not going to update my main rig till I have to.

[Sandman[SA]]

I'm probably not going to update my main rig till I have to.

My new server came with the retail version as part of the bundle.  So I can say with confidence, "I will not use that again".  Maybe try OEM version if I have to?  Hopefully that won't lock you behind a .net account.   Otherwise, I'm sticking with 10 until EOS.

[Sandman[SA]]

I've been hearing a lot about this one lately.  Just thought I would share.

[One Eyed Wonderweasle]

 The other thing about sticking with 10 past the normal EOS is that software is not really bother with win 10 compatibility after a certain point. So going to 11 for your gaming rig seems unavoidable, otherwise you'll have to use workarounds that bring the anti-cheat software nightmares. just something those articles might not have mentioned.   

[Sandman[SA]]

I found a little work around that, at the time of this post, can allow a user to install windows 11 without a msn account.

[KT 💣 KλBoƠM]

Well that can be a solution then for my PC. Besides my delay being that I am so tired from my Severe Sleep Apnea and helping my mom every single day and medical appointments (had 2 yesterday in one day) I also have been on the fence about Windows 11.

[KT 💣 KλBoƠM]

I changed the first post title to reflect any conversation about Windows 11.

Microsoft is ending support for Windows 11 update 21H2, here's what you need to do next

techradar.com/computing/windows/microsoft-is-ending-support-for-windows-11-update-21h2-heres-what-you-need-to-do-next

Windows 11 continues to be unpopular

Despite Windows 11 being out for about two years now, it still has a much lower adoption rate than its predecessor Windows 10. According to data from StatCounter, Windows 11 holds a 23.6% market share, which is barely higher than its April 2023 market share, when it was at 23.1%. Compare that to Windows 10, which holds a 71.6% share of the desktop market even now. And in its first two years, 10 had a 36.6% market share, much higher than 11.

There are several reasons for this issue, the biggest one being its new system requirements for Windows 11, especially TPM (security), discounted older generations of processors unless users spent money to upgrade their rigs. Another reason is the lack of significant difference between Windows 10 and 11, which would especially discourage those who would need to update their PCs.

Not to mention the other problems of advertisements sneaking into the OS more, privacy issues cropping up from that, as well as a steady stream of bug reports popping up and persistent problems like slow SSDs.

Hopefully, this all will be a lesson to Microsoft when it eventually releases Windows 12, that to convince users to make the OS switch you need to actually give users a reason to convert in the first place.

[Sandman[SA]]

The adoption to windows 11 is so low because of TPM and other very limited hardware support.  Up to windows 10, you don't have those restrictions.  You could install windows 10 on a potato.  Giving that it had enough storage space and ram to run it.

Another thing is the UI looks a lot like Mac OS.  Windows users are generally not comfortable using Mac.  And then there is the part where you have to create a MS .Net account just to install it.  Any system level changes require login to your .net account to authorize said changes.

Now there is talk that windows 12 maybe a Linux distro based OS.   

[KT 💣 KλBoƠM]

The adoption to windows 11 is so low because of TPM and other very limited hardware support.  Up to windows 10, you don't have those restrictions.  You could install windows 10 on a potato.  Giving that it had enough storage space and ram to run it.

Another thing is the UI looks a lot like Mac OS.  Windows users are generally not comfortable using Mac.  And then there is the part where you have to create a MS .Net account just to install it.  Any system level changes require login to your .net account to authorize said changes.

Now there is talk that windows 12 maybe a Linux distro based OS.   

And it is ridiculous that we were told that Windows 10 would  be the final one so we would no longer have to buy Windows over and over again but would just be updates .. but that was all lies. Just a way to push everyone to do not what they did when they were encouraged to upgrade from Windows XP which people loved. That is my take on their reason why they said what they did about Windows 10 being the final one. I also noticed that Windows is started to focus on touch screen and no longer traditional computers. More toward cell phones and tablets.  And Windows 10 (later versions) already require you to make a MS .net account.

[Sandman[SA]]

Windows 11 currently is the only OS that has a default option to install using a .net account.  Windows 10 has this option too, but default install is local user.  You can setup a .net account later for security measures and recovery options if you want.  But it's not mandatory.

[One Eyed Wonderweasle]

 So your suggesting that the future "windows 12" operating system is supposed to be based on an open source OS. or do you mean it will have linux compatibility or integration. Makes no sense for them to abandon windows and have to change all their software to a different OS.

[Sandman[SA]]

It's just speculation at this point.  But I heard rumors that windows 12 might be a full on Linux based OS.

[Sandman[SA]]

I thought I would share this.  It could spell trouble for Microsoft.

[KT 💣 KλBoƠM]

I thought I would share this.  It could spell trouble for Microsoft.

Oh wow that is crazy!